Re: Certification choices

[William Fink <william.fink@charter.net>]

Being a good coder and a good analyst can be two different things.  Most
of the time, however, they go hand-in-hand.Sometimes, not.  

For example, in requirements-analysis, no programming skills are
necessary (and may be preferred that way).  Developing use-cases need no
formal programming background. In fact, some argue "technology" should
not even be a consideration at this point.  Let the requirements drive
the direction for the technology to be applied.

I am guessing this is why many of the H1B and Off-Shore developers have
such a hard time in this area.  Yes, they know how to code and can crank
out 10K lines/hour...but they have no discipline in managing projects or
gathering requirements and fail to be able to communicate with the
customer.

A trained monkey can write code and set up a network (maybe that's why I
like bananas) but it takes real investigative and social skills to be
able to decide what a customer really wants and then be able to get it
all down on paper so it can be turned over to a team of developers.

Well, I hope I have not wasted too much bandwidth on this subject. I
would be happy to discuss this further off-line.


On Sat, 2003-05-24 at 23:03, greg wrote:
> Don't you have to be good at coding to do solid analysis and design?
> 
> 
> William Fink wrote:
> 
> >I assume you are looking to get into network/computer support.  Since I
> >am a software developer, I can not help.  If, by some small chance, you
> >might be looking into software; might I suggest Sun-Java or Microsoft
> >Certified Solution Developer.
> >
> >While the MCSD has little to do with real-world software development, it
> >will open the door to many consulting companies in the area.  If the
> >place of employment is a MS Solution provider, then they need a constant
> >quota of MCSD/MCSEs.
> >
> >Another area I see a STRONG demand is in solid project management. 
> >Companies are looking for people that can to Analysis/Design work so
> >they can ship the "Grunt" work to India (or some other off-shore body
> >shop).  What we are finding is that these "Body Shops" and H1Bs are
> >GREAT at cranking out good code, they are less-than good at the "Paper
> >Work". And even worse at communication with the users/customer.
> >
> >Like I said, I don't know if you are interesting in the "Software" side
> >of things; but if you are going to get one free certification, that may
> >be an area.
> >
> >Rational certification might be good, but I know very few that are.
> >
> >Just my 2 cents.
> >
> >William Fink, MCSD (big deal)
> >   
> >On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 16:27, Stephen D Reindl wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>If you could receive one of the following certifications free of charge,
> >>and you had no job, and you were looking to make the most money possible
> >>just by acquiring a certification, which would you chose and why?
> >>
> >>Cisco CCNA
> >>Cisco CCNP
> >>MCSE Windows 2000
> >>Linux +
> >>Linux Certified Administrator
> >>Unix
> >>Unix Level 1
> >>Network +
> >>Security +
> >>AA in computer networking technology
> >>
> >>You have no income so you need certification fast to upgrade your
> >>resume. You have a mechanical background with some practical experience
> >>but no real world experience in computer administration.
> >>
> >>I don't want or need jokes or flames. This is my real world predicament
> >>and I'm looking for valid advice from those people who are actually
> >>working in this field. The AA is from Ranken and is a 72 week course.
> >>The rest are from either ATAI, Techskils, or New Horizons and all are
> >>from 4 to 12 weeks in duration. It will be paid for by National
> >>Emergency Grant money authorized by congress to help retrain those of us
> >>(airline employees) who have been screwed by 9/11, the SARS epidemic and
> >>a contrived War for Oil in Iraq, oh that's right it wasn't oil we went
> >>there for it was WMD. (Sorry! very heavy sarcasm)
> >>
> >>If I haven't pissed you off, suggestions?  
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >
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