Re: help... X-Server crashed after update

[cbruce8@gmail.com]

Laz, I don't have a fix for you, but would like to know what finally gets you going. Sorry I couldn't help. -Did you try the Ubuntu forum? - It did not help me much on another issue, but you never know...

-charlie

On Apr 15, 2009 4:48pm, Laszlo Acs <laszlo@lanscape.net> wrote:
> Let me preface my retort with this.  I'm not a linux guru in any form or fashion; though I've had occasion to dabble often since RedHat 5 and have owned a number of machines fer quite some time as well as worked in a couple of environments where I convinced powers that having an Open-Source platform would be cost effective.  I've also been active in a few community stuff with the Pritchards and others - let's just say I ain't a raw recruit.  But, I tend to forget more than I remember these days (I've been around - in the arena since before the Commodore PET machines and built my own Heathkit S-100 bus 8086 computer "back in the day" and my first formal computer course was in Fortran where I had to punch cards to run what I created).  I've been around the block a few times...  Usually, I spend a massive amount of time creating what I want for the personal project of the moment, building a machine for a specific purpose - get it working and let it run, hardly ever messing with the machine much afterward. Sometimes it's months between times of playing on any *nix machine (my day job is all M$ and Winders-based - just the way it is) - and I normally have to play catch-up with what's passed me by when I have occasion to play again.  Sad to say, there simply ain't enuf hours in a day to accomodate all my work and family obligations as well as my playtime (and I try to stay abreast of the developments - I have too many interests in too many things [digital imaging, data-warehousing, clustering, Java, Perl, C++, Ruby, Ajax, Adobe Flex and AIR, web services...  just to name a few 'puter stuff, then there's interest and participation in things like playing the stock and options markets, being a Boy Scoutmaster, and an executive leader in a few other organizations]; stuff simply happen too quickly to stay completely on top of them all - and I try)...
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> So - if X is not running, then what's the difference anywho.  I've never had occasion to play in recovery mode, so don't have a clue other than what I read on daWeb and other research and making an inference to my experience of another OS's idea of a recovery mode.  My understanding of recovery mode apparently was wrong; but that's really besides the point.  Now that I'm enlightened a tad, I don't see how knowing this helps in any way.  More to my point of trying to be as non-destructive as possible - from what I could tell when booting; something got skrewed somehow during an update - which came AFTER something skrewed with my xfonts causing a PERL issue that aborted a different update.  My path of repair so far has been disastrous and my machine is barely limping along, but still functioning.  I can no longer remote into it; but I can remote to another machine in the same subnet and check it's status based on mounting files with another system - checking log files, etc.; can't remotely control the mySQL, but I can monitor it while I am away.  The machine has failed twice so far (locked up and unresponsive to any command) and both times, there is nothing in the log that indicates a reason for this problem.  I'm hesitant to comment out my CRON jobs; they still operate (at least until the machine freezes) just fine.
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> What would be more helpful is a suggestion or two of what I can do beyond this point.  I'm running out of bright ideas and all the ones I've had so far have not had nice results.  I've gone from smooth operation where all I ever done for ages was monitor my applications to not being able to read my gdm screen to death of my Xserver.  I'm having to learn all over again how to deal with mySQL and monitoring my machine using just the terminal... ;)  Little did I know how spoiled I've become by the mouse and widgets...  I'm a little leery of my own ideas at this point - hence this and my previous notes hoping for a little assistance from the broader community.
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> humbly...
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> Laz
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> At 02:06 PM 4/15/2009 -0500, you wrote:
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> Drastic?  Destructive?  In what way?
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> "recovery mode" is just Ubuntu's way of saying "runlevel 1".  The only
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> difference between "recovery mode" and other "modes" is the services
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> that are started/stopped.  X11 (gdm/kdm/etc.) is just another service,
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> which happens to start in normal mode and is not started in recovery
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> mode.
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> Regards,
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> - Robert
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> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Laszlo Acs laszlo@lanscape.net> wrote:
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> > but...  I really didn't wanna do that.  I was hoping to solve the problem
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> > without getting drastic (I consider 'recovery mode' to be rather drastic and
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> > potentially destructive if not VERY careful)
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