Re: no end in sight

["Casey Boone" <ophidian@mychoice.net>]

nds owns (im in agreement, nds is the best thing novell has going for it)

linux needs nds or something just as powerful standard out of the box :\

Casey

-----Original Message-----
From: silug-discuss-owner@silug.org
[mailto:silug-discuss-owner@silug.org]On Behalf Of Bob T. Kat
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:11 PM
To: silug-discuss@silug.org
Subject: Re: no end in sight


I actually liked novell for a long time (3.x early 4) but 4.2 and 5 were
a disaster IMHO, about the only two things they still have going for
them are NDS and Zen (if you have to deal with winders boxes), this
accounting software that we are using is crap, but I just recently found
that it runs on linux woot! The company that makes it runs all linux
servers for production in house!  So I'm looking at swapping out this
novell for a linux box running samba, which at that point would just
leave getting rid of this win2k box and the other novell box, so close
yet so far away

Bob T. Kat

"One cat just leads to another."
- Ernest Hemingway -


-----Original Message-----
From: silug-discuss-owner@silug.org
[mailto:silug-discuss-owner@silug.org] On Behalf Of Casey Boone
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:07 PM
To: silug-discuss@silug.org
Subject: Re: no end in sight

actually i like novell, but i have to admit that given the fact i think
they
are killing themselves off slowly, i would be greatly tempted to use a
linux/unix based solution in future for inhouse

however the customers are handled by linux ;}

Casey

-----Original Message-----
From: silug-discuss-owner@silug.org
[mailto:silug-discuss-owner@silug.org]On Behalf Of Bob T. Kat
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:59 PM
To: silug-discuss@silug.org
Subject: Re: no end in sight


The novell server is a dual processor box with dual raid five array's
that are mirrored across, then it also has a dual hot swap power supply,
one supply is plugged into a smart ups 3000 and the other a smart ups
900, it runs the accounting software (explaining the redundancy), what I
wouldn't do to be an all unix/linux shop, this thing will be beeping at
me till tomorrow (the mirrored partitions on this system are not all
synchronized. beep), so can you do software raid of root/boot partitions
yet, I was trying to do that with my web server but ended up just
mirroring the data partitions, downtime is the enemy must attack it with
brute force and planning (do not use ms or novell), just a couple more
thoughts from a tired abused sysadmin (yes I want some cheese with that
whine)

Bob T. Kat

"Microsoft seems to have gotten a lot of mileage out of the C2 rating
for NT with no network connection.  I wonder if a B3 rating for Linux
with no power cord might be of value."  - kernel mailing list -

-----Original Message-----
From: silug-discuss-owner@silug.org
[mailto:silug-discuss-owner@silug.org] On Behalf Of Ophidian
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:46 PM
To: silug-discuss@silug.org
Subject: Re: no end in sight

heh, your just going to have to get your own backup generator and some
massive battery backup units :)

i certainly wish i could afford such

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Castleberry" <castlebb@cuinc.org>
To: <silug-discuss@silug.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:10 AM
Subject: no end in sight


> You know it bothers me to no end when I don't have a server running
with
> uptime more than 100 day's, I had to drop most of the servers due to a
> storm that knocked out power long enough to start killing off our
ups's,
> that was about 20 day's ago, but I managed to keep my heavy duty
novell
> server up, so today this thing (novell server) just ceases operation,
> stops, cold, no warning, no messages, and especially no hard disk
> activity, after a reboot it seems to be fully operational, but there
is
> nothing in the logs on why it just stopped, I just wanted to put this
> out here as another testimonial for using linux, I've never seen a
linux
> server with enough redundancy to choke a horse just stop, next time
I'll
> take down the novell server and leave one of the linux servers
running,
> just a thought
>
> Bob T. Kat
>
>  "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as
> kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic
pills
> and listening to repetitive electronic music."
>
> Kristian Wilson
> Nintendo Inc. 1989
>
>
>
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