Craig, - Was the kernel updated? - You may have to roll-back to the fresh install kernel until you troubleshoot. - I had to do that a few (many) months back with my F7 install. -- Al Craig Ziegel wrote: 20081206145150.7413dad3@wisperhome.com" type="cite">On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:58:12 -0600 "Robert G. (Doc) Savage" <dsavage@peaknet.net> wrote:On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 16:42 -0600, Craig Ziegel wrote:I installed fedora 10 on childs PC. the usb wireless card worked fineon the fresh install but after the updates on the pc with the usb card it does not work on restart it does not even show up in NM only eth0 can someone tell me how to fix this. pleaseWhen I ifup wlan0 Determining IP information for wlan0...Nothing to flush. Failed [michael@localhost ~]$ iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. wmaster0 no wireless extensions. wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:"" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412 GHz Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=27 dBm Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2352 B Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 Component: system-config-network Version: 1.5.93 Summary: TB334155f4 ConfShellVar.py:66:__setitem__:TypeError: expected string or buffer Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 829, in on_applyButton_clicked self.save() File "/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 411, in save self.saveDevices() File "/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/gui/maindialog.py", line 431, in saveDevices devicelist.save() File "/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/NCDeviceList.py", line 238, in save dev.save() File "/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/plugins/NCPluginDevWireless.py", line 48, in save super(DevWireless, self).save() File "/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/NCDevice.py", line 413, in save conf[confkey] = getattr(self, selfkey) File "/usr/share/system-config-network/netconfpkg/conf/ConfShellVar.py", line 66, in __setitem__ if self.quotereg.search(value): TypeError: expected string or buffer Local variables in innermost frame: varname: MTU self: <netconfpkg.NCDevice.ConfDevice instance at 0x7fe8eea09e18> place: 18 value: 1500 missing: 1 When I check MTU 1500 this is the error logCraig, What version of NetworkManager are you running? A NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.12.svn4326.FC10 update was released on Nov 25. --Doc - To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@silug.org with "unsubscribe silug-discuss" in the body.I know it did a network manager update when I update after install. I did try /sbin/lsmod | grep zd1211 that did nothing NM is still not seeing wireless |