http://www.honeynet.org/papers/index.html I found this site today. It contains absolutely fascinating whitepapers on cracking computers, detecting cracks in computers, setting up honeypots, so on, so forth. It also led me to Rootkit Hunter - www.rootkit.nl - which runs circles around chkrootkit. - Harold - To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@silug.org with "unsubscribe silug-discuss" in the body.