Re: Redhat Questions...

[KoReE <koree@ameth.org>]

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Steven Pritchard wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 09:12:36AM -0600, KoReE wrote:
> > I need telnet
>
> No you don't.  :-)

Well, I"m wanting to play with exceed, and the copy I have is looking for
telnet, or rsh, or a few others.  I'd rather use telnet than rsh, and it
doesn't have support for ssh.  This is a temporary setup thing for me to
play around with a piece of software...

>
> > (yes, I know, ssh, but this is behind a firewall, and is a NAT
> > machine, so no one is getting to it from the outside),
>
> That doesn't matter.  You can ssh from other Linux boxes, and you can
> use PuTTY (GPL'd ssh/telnet/scp/sftp) on any Windows boxes you might
> have.
>
>     http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
>
> And unlike the broken telnet thing that comes with Windows, PuTTY
> actually has good terminal emulation.
>

And this I know too, as every message I write to this list from work is
from a putty terminal...connecting via the sshv2 protocol to the openssh
server that is ameth.org...I also use putty to forward ports to a squid
proxy to encrypt my web requests and transfers right up to our core
router.  I do agree, SSH rules, and telnet is the sux....

> > and it didn't install it, so I need to get it.
>
> I still *strongly* disagree, but if you really must, install the
> telnet-server package and do "chkconfig telnet on".

This I also know how to do.  The problem is, in.telnetd is not there.
Period.  The binary was not even installed.  I did the above last night
and it did nothing.

>
> Again, it's not just the security issues, although that should be
> enough for anyone.  You can't login as root safely through telnet.
> You can't copy files around with telnet.  You can't transparently
> redirect TCP connections (like X) with telnet.  Plus, even if you
> ignore everything ssh can do that ssh can't, it's still better as just
> a straight telnet replacement, since it is an 8-bit clean connection.
>

You're preaching to the converted here....I'm just wanting to play with
software... :D

> Trust me on this...  You gain *nothing* by using a telnet server on a
> Linux box, and you lose a *lot*.

I gain being able to play with this software.  It's something I'd turn off
any time I'm not playing with this software...

>
> > I've seen you guys discuss using apt-get to install new programs, but
> > it appears that is not on my system. I thought maybe Redhat had
> > started using this program, but I guess not.
>
> No, you'll need to install apt by hand.  Get it here:
>
>     http://ftp.silug.org/pub/freshrpms/redhat-7.3/apt/
>
> Then (assuming you want to use our mirror) edit /etc/sources.list,
> comment everything out, and add this:
>
>     rpm http://ftp.silug.org/pub/apt redhat/7.3/en/i386 os updates-os
>
> If you want to be able to grab source rpms with "apt-get source", add
> another line that starts with "rpm-src" instead of "rpm".
>
> Then you can "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" to get current and
> use "apt-get install" to install packages.
>

Thank you :D

I just want you to know, I *completely* agree with your points about ssh.
Exceed is just something I've always wanted to play with, and it's asking
for telnet.  I have an old version of exceed, so maybe now it has ssh
capability in the newest version.  *shrug* I'll find out.  I'm probably
going to set this system up to do ssh port forwarding from localhost 23 to
the remote host 23, and encrypt the telnet session anyway...

Koree

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