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Re: nVidia is OS?



>> and if i pull something from freshmeat chances are it doesnt muck with 
>> the kernel.

> >Well, a search on "Linux kernel" on FM turned up 324 projects.
> > [...]
> >You wanna bet very few of those contributors are RHCEs or RH employees?
> 
> i will give you this because i dont want to check all of them out.

The point is that there are lots of projects that "muck with the kernel".
Some of them are in many distros, too.

e2fsprogs comes to mind.

I know, because I'm dealing with SuSE not enabling the htree flag and
Mandrake 9.1 does.
 
> they have a serious interest in a stable production system.  as you 
> state later the primary buyer is the enterprise.  enterprise users dont like 
> downtime on servers for any reason.

But, enterprise users don't have nVidia cards in their servers.
That tells me that Redhat is a dead end for making graphics-card-friendly
changes into the Kernel. And nVidia's shareholders certainly shouldn't hang
their hats on Redhat developing drivers for them, since Redhat isn't 
interested.

> nvidia's revenue stream does not depend upon their linux drivers ATM.  they 
> only have to be "good enough".  redhat's revenue stream comes from ppl using 
> rh linux.

And I certainly would trust nVidia's kernel changes necessary for their
cards to run well over Redhat's tinkering in an area that generates no
revenue for them.

> and its the same enterprise customers who are more picky about the system 
> running stable... for weeks and months and years.
> 
> if you want a desktop game focused distro linux isnt it yet, it has a long 
> way to go.

And Redhat certainly ain't it. But nVidia drivers sure do help.
More than Redhat does, since we all agree that RH is focused on their
business customers and server market, and not the desktop or game market.
But that's the very place where there are loads of nVidia cards *already*
installed.

I agree nVidia could do more. But any driver is better than no driver.
Which is what you wind up with when you follow Steve's "Avoid nVidia
at all costs" position.

> im not saying that you or anyone else has had trouble with nvidia, only that 
> i myself dont want them mucking with my kernel if i can help it.

Well, if you already have an nVidia card, there's not much to lose
(by installing their binary/proprietary/closed/source drivers) other than
another former Linux user returning to the comfort of Windows.

And I think they know that their 2-4% Linux base really doesn't care,
since very little of the game software they're likely to run is open source
either.

Mike808/

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